Michael Shellenberger on The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss (audio)

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/origins-podcast-with-michael-shellenberger-from/id1467481703?i=1000564995504I was very happy to have the chance to speak to Michael Shellenberger some time ago, after his book Apocalypse Never appeared. Having written my book, The Physics of Climate Change, I was intrigued by his take on the fact that climate change is not an existential threat. Once I read his book, I realized we agreed on many things, with perhaps the differences being on emphasize rather than substance.